Hey guys, I've been competitive at the national level for years. I've used it all for peeling down including clen, cytomel, GH, DNP, you name it. I retired about three years ago but decided to get back into the game to find that a basic ECA stack was nowhere to be found. WHAT THE *&#$? Anyway I ordered red rocket, a 25mg. ephedra alkaloid product and started taking one cap in the a.m. and one cap at 4pm pre workout. Holy S-- In two weeks lost 8lbs of bodyfat via InBody Analysis Machine which measures with up to 98% accuracy lean mass, intra and extracellular water and fat mass. Lean mass staid the same buy actual fat tissue went down 8lbs in two weeks, with a steady drop of subq water as well. The stuff is great. I highly recommend it as an ECA product.